{"id":2602,"date":"2011-02-07T21:26:48","date_gmt":"2011-02-07T21:26:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/?p=2602"},"modified":"2011-02-08T19:07:38","modified_gmt":"2011-02-08T19:07:38","slug":"","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/2602","title":{"rendered":"Post-Landmarks meeting this Wednesday \u2026 Andy and Dave set the scene &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hi Warts,<\/p>\n<p>Just a note about Wednesdays consultation meeting;for most Warts the outing on a Wednesday is pure magic, a real sense of getting away from work\/the city and great camaraderie &#8211; whatever the weather. The Alport Castle outing says all there needs to be said. However over the years the outing has changed, Hallam bog great as it is has lost its charm when the big hills\/darkness\/and even rougher ground attracts. Hopefully the meeting will not be too acrimonious &#8211; and all should speak out but there are differences of opinion, which sadly have become polarised, and friendships frayed.The program this year attempted to marry some of the differences i.e. running near the Club hut\/Sportsman so we could meet other club members and support the pub, however there are some of the group who will search out the big hills whenever they can \u2013 should they let others know of a similar mind,or does it become exclusive? What obligations have the Warts to the rest of the club who run on a Wednesday &#8211; or the Sportsman &#8211; your views are important. On a wider level, affecting the summer program, are there similar issues &#8211; and is that a matter for the A.G.M and not Warts &#8211; with the clocks changing at the end of March these matters are pressing. Willy-John-Dave all need to know so that good\/clear communications exist. Andy.<\/p>\n<p>Dave Holmes adds:<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m sure we\u2019ll discuss things amicably and constructively at the meeting \u2013 no more frayed friendships. But I\u2019m concerned if we\u2019re being asked to consider a significant migration from The Sportsman. The pub has been our home since the club was formed. Newer members may not realise that we ran exclusively from The Sportsman until Yorkshire Water objected to our traditional \u201ctrespass\u201d route round the dams. We then initiated the mixed \u201chome and away\u201d calendar that has since operated successfully for over 20 years. It\u2019s only one man\u2019s view, but I think switching to an \u201caway and away\u201d calendar would be very regrettable and would raise issues for the whole club. Rather than make a long and tedious speech at the meeting, I\u2019ll set out here why I think The Sportsman is important to us. People can of course agree or disagree, and I am sure we will hear a range of views. But here, in no particular order, is what I think The Sportsman does for Dark Peak:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>It gives us a social hub. We know there are nights when everybody will be together in one place. Warts, road runners, non runners, ex runners, injured runners, runners who were stuck at work late can all mix amicably in one place. It helps to make the club feel like a club and hold it together.<\/li>\n<li>It makes us less dependent on cars and reduces our carbon footprint. The away runs are wonderful, but they do sometimes involve long car journeys. The Sportsman gives most people a much shorter journey and also makes it possible to cycle or use public transport.<\/li>\n<li>It\u2019s accessible to new, younger members who may not be able to drive out into the middle of Derbyshire, e.g. people from the university orienteering club who have traditionally provided many of our best runners.<\/li>\n<li>It means we can get home at a reasonable time. The away runs are wonderful, but sometimes it\u2019s getting on for 11 o\u2019clock when we get home. Not brilliant if you\u2019ve still got to get fed, showered and up for work in the morning. OK once in a while, but every week?<\/li>\n<li>It gives us variety. We get faster, more runnable terrain than some of the heather bashing we do on away trips. It gives people the option of running fast if they want to, or maybe training on the road from time to time.<\/li>\n<li>It extends our access to the whole of the Dark Peak. There are fantastic, evocative places that we only reach from The Sportsman. To name but a few: the Headstone, Rivelin Needle, Crow Chin, the stone circles, High Neb, Ocean View, Robin Hood\u2019s Cave, Higgar Tor, Carl Wark, Ken\u2019s Cairn, Houndkirk Hill, Hathersage Stream. We are privileged to have such places on our doorstep. Why should we want to abandon them?<\/li>\n<li>It provides the club hut. Totley are trying to raise tens of thousands of pounds to create what we already have. I think we should be grateful for what the pub provides, and should demonstrate our gratitude through our continuing support for Jill and the team at a difficult time for rural pubs.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I\u2019ll admit that the run along the conduit to get to Stanage Pole or Brown Edge is tedious. I get fed up of it too. But we\u2019ve tried the \u201cSportsman plus\u201d idea by running from Redmires\/Houndkirk\/Burbage and I got the impression that these had gone quite well. Can\u2019t we unite around this compromise?<\/p>\n<p>Dave<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi Warts, Just a note about Wednesdays consultation meeting;for most Warts the outing on a Wednesday is pure magic, a real sense of getting away from work\/the city and great camaraderie &#8211; whatever the weather. The Alport Castle outing says all there needs to be said. However over the years [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":452,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_themeisle_gutenberg_block_has_review":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[155],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2602","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-warts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2602","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/452"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2602"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2602\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2602"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2602"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dpfr.org.uk\/wp_dpfr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2602"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}